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PostSubject: Re: FC.A. 3-1 WA Delegacy Charter Amendment   Thu Jan 07, 2010 12:37 pm

The revised version of the charter is here: http://royalfederation.my-rpg.com/law-library-f15/the-second-charter-of-the-rfn-t903.htm

You will find that as tadin says it is an elected position (4 months in office).

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PostSubject: Re: FC.A. 3-1 WA Delegacy Charter Amendment   Thu Jan 07, 2010 12:38 pm

Oh. But still, I support separation of powers.
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PostSubject: Re: FC.A. 3-1 WA Delegacy Charter Amendment   Thu Jan 07, 2010 12:42 pm

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Oh. But still, I support separation of powers.
Take notice that the purpose of this amendment is not to unite the positions of WA Delegate and Chairman. According to the current charter this already happens. The purpose of this amendment is simply to correct inconsistencies that exist on the current charter (except the part about the Supreme court magistrate, that is something new).

In short, it really wouldn't make sense to vote against it because you believe the two positions should be separate.

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PostSubject: Re: FC.A. 3-1 WA Delegacy Charter Amendment   Thu Jan 07, 2010 1:03 pm

Well, I'm all for separation of powers too, but the reason why I merged the too roles in the Tadin Amendment was so then there was some incentive to actually be The Chairman. If you read the Second Charter, you will see that there is no real authority other than ceremonial for the Chairman. This was at least some purpose to give them.
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PostSubject: Re: FC.A. 3-1 WA Delegacy Charter Amendment   Thu Jan 07, 2010 2:59 pm

The Chairman is officially a head of state; more power resides within the Secretary-General than the Chairman. This will do nothing but remove rights from the people to elect their leaders.
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PostSubject: Re: FC.A. 3-1 WA Delegacy Charter Amendment   Thu Jan 07, 2010 3:54 pm

Really, for all practical purposes, the Chairman has less power than the Secretary-General in The Second Charter. One is an executive and the other holds a mostly symbolic role (think of a dynamic like The Queen Verses the Prime Minister. The only difference is that the Chairman is a delegate.

But, oppose this amendment all you like, but the role of The Chairman is not the debate at hand. A large majority of the Councilors have already supported the merging of these roles last month for security reasons and I feel it's unnecessary to revisit it.
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PostSubject: Re: FC.A. 3-1 WA Delegacy Charter Amendment   Thu Jan 07, 2010 4:09 pm

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This will do nothing but remove rights from the people to elect their leaders.
No seriously...this amendment pretty much does nothing. It's just some house keeping, fixing up some minor inconsistencies on the charter. If it doesn't pass, the chairman will still be the WA Delegate.

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PostSubject: Re: FC.A. 3-1 WA Delegacy Charter Amendment   Fri Jan 08, 2010 9:00 pm

so...hum...put this to vote?

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PostSubject: Re: FC.A. 3-1 WA Delegacy Charter Amendment   Fri Jan 08, 2010 9:15 pm

I motion this for a vote.

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PostSubject: Re: FC.A. 3-1 WA Delegacy Charter Amendment   Sat Jan 09, 2010 12:18 am

Do I hear anyone seconding?

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PostSubject: Re: FC.A. 3-1 WA Delegacy Charter Amendment   Sat Jan 09, 2010 7:20 am

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PostSubject: Re: FC.A. 3-1 WA Delegacy Charter Amendment   Sat Jan 09, 2010 4:44 pm

Alright! This shall go to a vote!
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