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PostSubject: FC.A. 3-3 Amendement to the charter, Chapter 5: The WA Delegacy   Wed Jan 13, 2010 10:59 am

In recognition of the difficulties associated with changes in the WA Delegacy (obtaining endorsements) and security risk that come with it, this amendment proposes the creation of a permanent WA Delegate nation, whose ownership shall change with the change of chairman.


Section 1.
Creation of Article 21 on chapter 5 that shall read as it follows:

Article 21.
1) The Chairman shall fulfill his duties as WA delegate by taking control of the permanent WA Delegate Nation: RFN Prime
2) In the beginning of his or her term, the Chairman must change the e-mail account of RFN Prime.
3) In the beginning of his or her term, the Chairman must create a new password for RFN Prime.
4) The Chairman must share this password with the Secretary of Intelligence and Defense.
5) The Secretary of Intelligence and Defense may assume the position of WA Delegate temporarily, in case the Chairman is absent during an emergency.
6) Both the Chairman and the Secretary of Intelligence and Defense are forbidden to discloser the password to anyone else.
7) Anyone assuming control of RFN Prime must take caution and ensure that no other WA nations are being used from their particular IP. Meaning that if they have a WA Nation, they must resign prior to taking control of RFN Prime. And that RFN Prime is not to be used from public computers. Both the chairman and the Secretary of Intelligence and Defense must be made aware of this, by the Secretary General on public forum.
8 ) Failure to uphold line 7 will be considered treason.

This bill shall go into effect upon approval of a majority of the Federation Council.

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PostSubject: Re: FC.A. 3-3 Amendement to the charter, Chapter 5: The WA Delegacy   Wed Jan 13, 2010 11:03 am

It has been raised the question of whether or not the creation of such a nation would be legal, I inquired an NS Moderator and received the following answer:

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It's possible, but it's also a very risky action to take. When each person adopts the WA nation being passed around, said person needs to have zero nations within the World Assembly when it is passed over to them. I would strongly recommend against doing this sort of action, as it's most likely going to get fumbled up.

Also, since it seems we will soon have a new chairman we should either pass or reject this amendment, before we make a new WA Delegate.

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PostSubject: Re: FC.A. 3-3 Amendement to the charter, Chapter 5: The WA Delegacy   Sun Jan 17, 2010 7:58 pm

We shall now consider this amendment.
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PostSubject: Re: FC.A. 3-3 Amendement to the charter, Chapter 5: The WA Delegacy   Mon Jan 18, 2010 1:23 pm

so...what's the general feel on this?

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PostSubject: Re: FC.A. 3-3 Amendement to the charter, Chapter 5: The WA Delegacy   Mon Jan 18, 2010 1:24 pm

I like it.

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PostSubject: Re: FC.A. 3-3 Amendement to the charter, Chapter 5: The WA Delegacy   Mon Jan 18, 2010 1:39 pm

I feel comfortable with it.
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PostSubject: Re: FC.A. 3-3 Amendement to the charter, Chapter 5: The WA Delegacy   Mon Jan 18, 2010 1:50 pm

Should we vote on it or wait?

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PostSubject: Re: FC.A. 3-3 Amendement to the charter, Chapter 5: The WA Delegacy   Mon Jan 18, 2010 1:53 pm

let it be a little more, elections for chairman only begin on the 20th right?

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PostSubject: Re: FC.A. 3-3 Amendement to the charter, Chapter 5: The WA Delegacy   Mon Jan 18, 2010 1:59 pm

I believe so.

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PostSubject: Re: FC.A. 3-3 Amendement to the charter, Chapter 5: The WA Delegacy   Tue Jan 19, 2010 9:55 pm

well, since the election began I guess we should probably send this to vote as well

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PostSubject: Re: FC.A. 3-3 Amendement to the charter, Chapter 5: The WA Delegacy   Tue Jan 19, 2010 10:26 pm

Send it ASAP, this is highly important.

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PostSubject: Re: FC.A. 3-3 Amendement to the charter, Chapter 5: The WA Delegacy   Tue Jan 19, 2010 10:34 pm

What charter is this exactly for? I'm not understanding exactly.
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PostSubject: Re: FC.A. 3-3 Amendement to the charter, Chapter 5: The WA Delegacy   Tue Jan 19, 2010 10:38 pm

The Second Charter, it's in the Law Library forum.

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PostSubject: Re: FC.A. 3-3 Amendement to the charter, Chapter 5: The WA Delegacy   Tue Jan 19, 2010 10:59 pm

come on peoples! Do I hear a second?

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PostSubject: Re: FC.A. 3-3 Amendement to the charter, Chapter 5: The WA Delegacy   Tue Jan 19, 2010 11:01 pm

I second.

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PostSubject: Re: FC.A. 3-3 Amendement to the charter, Chapter 5: The WA Delegacy   Tue Jan 19, 2010 11:02 pm

Ok Tadin! Do your magic!

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PostSubject: Re: FC.A. 3-3 Amendement to the charter, Chapter 5: The WA Delegacy   Wed Jan 20, 2010 10:23 am

Haha... very well. IT SHALL BE DONE!
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PostSubject: Re: FC.A. 3-3 Amendement to the charter, Chapter 5: The WA Delegacy   Wed Jan 20, 2010 7:15 pm

sorry i haven't commented seen this before... but this isn't goner work and will get one of us kicked!

The only way I'd feel comfortable with this is if you made it compulsory for any member (who isn't the current chairmen) to resign from the WA the moment they announce their candidacy that way there is at least a week with them not having a nation, also you'd need to make sure the outgoing chairmen doesn't sign up for WA at least a week after and that is at least a week!

the mods will have a log with all your IPs from the time you logged in and they'll cross reference it to check if your current WA has had a WA and kick you...
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PostSubject: Re: FC.A. 3-3 Amendement to the charter, Chapter 5: The WA Delegacy   Wed Jan 20, 2010 7:38 pm

Well, how about I add that latter on?

For now it should be no problem since the nation in question isn't even in the WA yet.

Would that satisfy you?

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PostSubject: Re: FC.A. 3-3 Amendement to the charter, Chapter 5: The WA Delegacy   Wed Jan 20, 2010 7:39 pm

That is why you switch WA's. It is like a switcher nation in the military. You must change your WA to the new one and take off ur WA in the old one.

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PostSubject: Re: FC.A. 3-3 Amendement to the charter, Chapter 5: The WA Delegacy   Wed Jan 20, 2010 7:40 pm

But to be honest I don't see the point, as you can see from my second post, a moderator said this was fine.

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and take off ur WA in the old one.
Pretty much....

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PostSubject: Re: FC.A. 3-3 Amendement to the charter, Chapter 5: The WA Delegacy   Wed Jan 20, 2010 7:45 pm

yeah it is like a switcher... but unlike a switcher where you resign from the WA you hand it over to another person while it is in the WA you never actually get rid of the WA on that nation so as to keep all the endorsements, so the log will always stand saying that is your WA nation until anywhere between 24 hours and over a week has passed.

Whereas with a switcher you resign from teh WA then activate the new WA so you never ever register as having two WA's unlike here where it will appear that is the case.
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PostSubject: Re: FC.A. 3-3 Amendement to the charter, Chapter 5: The WA Delegacy   Wed Jan 20, 2010 7:48 pm

But Alancar said a mod told him it is fine. Maybe we can ask a whole bunch of mods and ask them if this is fine.

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PostSubject: Re: FC.A. 3-3 Amendement to the charter, Chapter 5: The WA Delegacy   Wed Jan 20, 2010 7:52 pm

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But to be honest I don't see the point, as you can see from my second post, a moderator said this was fine.

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And yes he did, but he also said it was extremely risky and could backfire. I could go into detail but simple point is... you'd have to make sure neither had WA a week before they take office or apply for WA a week later otherwise we lose our delegate. We also have a problem if we impeach a chairmen and he comes back and reports his nation has been hacked out of spite?
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PostSubject: Re: FC.A. 3-3 Amendement to the charter, Chapter 5: The WA Delegacy   Wed Jan 20, 2010 7:54 pm

Either way it's not an issue for now. Latter I will make another amendment adding the stipulation that people must resign from the WA a week before taking control of prime.

After all you can't error on the side of caution right?

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